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FROM:
John Dickson
RE: Disc Points The current disciplinary points at the moment
is 12 points and then suspended for 2 games. I would like to put forward the
change of.... 2 points for each booking and when a player
reaches 10 points he is suspended for 2 games. That would coincide with
real life of 5 bookings then suspension. Would not effect print out on squad list as
would start at 0 then go 2, 4, 6, 8, and then back to 0 for the fifth
booking. Would like to hear feedback on this. John Dickson FROM:
Steve Blaby
RE: Forums Don't know if anyone else has seen that the www.playbymail.info forum is closing at the end of
February. Pro-Soccer users have been by far the most pro-active on the site
and therefore I feel that either a Pro-Soccer forum or an expansion of this
manager views page would replace what has been an interesting and sometimes
controversial forum. Obviously a forum is going to be expensive and the running costs
are going to be passed onto us managers, I am sure that with the amount of
usage we gave the forum it is worth exploring to see what it would cost and I
for one wouldn't mind a small subscription fee, especially as Trev has no
plans for a chat room of any sort. Interested to know other managers thoughts not just from
managers who have used the forum but those who haven't yet used it
as well. FROM:
Ben Flatley
RE: On Line Chats. Does
the GM do any on-line chats etc? GMS REPLY: Basically no! Many discussions go via the forums which are run
elsewhere. Use to instant message with a few managers via the Yahoo messenger
via email address pbm.dexter@talk21.com.
But that has dies down of late. FROM:
Sean Codman
RE: We already have transfer lists for players we want to sell, but
what about having loan lists for those players we want to make available for
loan to other teams? Thus allowing fringe players in our squads to get first
team action in other squads, or to build up young players by allowing them to
play regularly in another team. Just an idea! GMS REPLAY: The tlist is on my radar to be updated. Possibly to include
stating if a player is for swap only. Could easily add on for Loan as an
option and provide one big list, Instead of several smaller ones, making it
more confusing. Nothing likely very soon, but hopefully in the New year will
be looking to do something along these lines. FROM:
Sean Codman
RE: Andrew Duggan. I was saddened to hear of Andrew’s death. He was a good and
popular manager in FROM:
Jon Dickson
RE: Game 3, Season 1. My
first season in charge at Dealings
have been very good for both sides with help from Matthew Keegan ( So,
good luck to all in season two. FROM:
Marcus Harrison
RE: Skill Drop When Changing Positions. I
know positional changes result in a skill drop. Would this still be the case
if you had 2 players that could swap positions? Specifically I'm on about Van
Persie who's down as a midfielder and Julio Baptista who's down as an
attacker. Seems a bit of a waste when Van Persie can cover most attacking
positions and we know Julio Baptista is not Real Madrid's 4th choice striker,
even if the press don't. GMS REPLY: This early on both would lose a skill. Can’t start re-writing the
rules only a few weeks in. In the next bout of rule changes could amend it to
'swap' positions as it would make sense. FROM:
Matthew Keegan RE: Player Requests. think
the whole concept of scrapping private cash deals is crazy and will be a
terrible thing for ProSoccer. If cash deals are slowing up, it is purely due
to the existence of swap deals in the game. Why not ban all swap deals!!! If
you were to ask GMS REPLY: Cash deals will still happen they will just be done via the tlist.
This will make sure everyone gets a fair chance of buying a player and the
selling club gets what the player is worth. FROM:
Steven Beasley RE:
Player Requests. Can
you sell a player request before 4 weeks without getting fined? GM’S REPLY: Yes, as long as you pay the signing on fee the previous turn so he
is not C or R status there is no 4 week rule in play. FROM:
Jonathan.Wisniewski RE:
Reserves & Bids to Un-Managed sides? In
the reserve league rules you state that if you play someone in the reserves
and the first team then they will drop by 25-30%. Is that at all or just if
you play them for both sides in the same week? So can I play first teamers in
the reserve side that are not playing for first team that week with no skill
drop? can
you make transfer offers by direct bids to unmanaged teams? Do they get
accepted? GM’s REPLY: 1) If you played an 80 skill in BOTH teams he would play as a 60
skill for the reserves for that game only. He would still be an 80 skill on
next squad list and for next turn matches. 2) you can bid for players at un-managed sides. Can be difficult
to get them, have to bid high. There is a explanation on the website on the
GMs page if that helps. (About half way down left hand column). FROM:
Pete Nield RE:
ProSoccerPBM Forum? Is
there any chance of a ProSoccerPBM forum like the other forum, but part of
the game and the website? GMS REPLY: Not at the moment. But I might try and set one up during the
summer. A prelim look into it would suggest it would only cost £30-£50 a year
to get sufficient web hosting etc, so I may well look into it when I have
more time. My web design skills are limited so would have to learn a few
things so may take awhile. Forum would be about the game and real-life
football. Will let you know when I have a better idea. FROM:
Jy Taylor RE:
Loan Deals. Why
were loan deals restricted to non-paying recall loans? A few years ago you
could send a player on loan to a club for a fixed period of time and you
could also charge for it. This gave the receiving club the safe knowledge
that the player would be with them for 'x' amount of weeks whilst giving the
selling club an incentive. It
also enabled more complex deals to be created. i.e I could swap a player for
another player and the loan of a further player for 'x' number of weeks. Would
managers benefit/want this feature to return? I would suggest that you keep
the 'recall loan' and free loans but also allow managers to charge for a loan
if they so wish - and can get what they want. I would also welcome the return
of fixed loan periods - perhaps no less than 4 weeks and no longer than 1/2 a
season (or 11 weeks!). Jy GMS REPLY: Why?, Simply the system was abused. Decent players were sent on
long loans, then the side was dropped and the new manager had to wait for
ages to get his better players. As for loan fees it is a percentage of the players value simply
because again people were abusing the system. Loaning out 77 skills players
for a few million to get cash to a side. Most loans are free which is ideal. Cannot have fixed week loans
simply even if not cheating if a side becomes un-managed a new manager does
not want players of his out on loan before he has even started. With Recall
loans all players are automatically recalled once a new manager takes control
of a side. As always most rules etc have to be enforced because of a small
minority of managers who wont play the game in the spirit it is meant. Only
consolation is that these managers rarely, if at all actually win anything in
the game! FROM:
Steve Blaby
RE: Cash Deals
& The Tlist Trev,
Your idea about banning all cash deals and making the t-list the only all
cash deals is a good one. I remember when the t-list was only done three or
so times a season as an auction in the press release and you used to get some
good quality players on there. The only trouble will be getting people to
actually put their players on there. Its a vicious circle at the moment -
I've been touting Heskey (and others) about for weeks and getting nowhere
this turn I have put him on the t-list and have had several offers for him.
The trouble is once I sell him what do I do with the cash? Noone else will
put decent players on the list as they are scared to death they won't be able
to replace them. The thing is, as there is a reserve price
there shouldn't be a problem with them not getting what they want.
Plus if they see a player they want, bid for them and sell someone the next
turn to save the compulsary sales. Years
ago I was in another PBM where the only deals that were done were for cash
and the only way to advertise your players was on the t-list and it did
work well. The only problem with it is that without interaction between
managers some players would be held onto at the same club forever! FROM:
Jy.Taylor RE:
Forums have
any of you visited the PBM forum that Trev has advertised on the site? I know
you have! Well
why aren't you using it? This
seems a great addition to the game as managers can swap ideas, thoughts and
deals. Forums work fantastically in other PBM's so why not this one? Come
on guys, make use of it! FROM:
Jy.Taylor
RE: Season 19 Congratulations
to Marcus on a deserved Champions League victory and ANOTHER cfl title - as I
have already told him, I intend to wrestle MY cfl crown back next year. His
victory should be yet more evidence for the 'high skill debate'. In week 2 I
swapped Nedved 85 with Marcus for Tudor 82 and Totti 83. I needed the higher
skilled defender for my first team and hoped that the squad depth would help
me in the Champions League. Many other bosses would have shyed away from
offering a good deal for an 85. Marcus didn't. As a result Nedved pops up on
the final turn of the season and secures his cfl title as well as the
all-important Champions League win. I
don't regret the deal - I needed to do it to ensure I would compete. My point
is that too few managers would offer anything above 3 x 81 for an 85 these
days. As a result the same sides win titles as they keep hold of the 84-86's.
Marcus has proved a manager prepared to pay a bit, take a risk and gamble is
a manager who now has a free season in prze money! Well
done mate! FROM:
DARREN DORE-WRIGHT RE:
Wayne Rooney I feel i need to say something on Wayne Rooney as i see so many
articles sent in i thought i would see if we could squeeze this in. Rooney i
think no doubt in everyone's mind will be an all time great but at the moment
he is no more than an exciting talent. People saying can he be stopped well
ask the defenders in his last 2 games who man marked him out of the game
Rooney is lacking the experience to figure out how to shake these men off. In
time yes he will learn how to lose a marker and maybe become a 20 goals a
season forward. So until he has matured in to the striker we all expect no
more talk of how great he is let's wait and see when trophies are sitting on
his shelf with a golden boot taking centre stage. If anyone feels any
different let me know. And one last whinge why are the news papers getting so
excited that we beat a second rate welsh side and a very ropey azibajhan outfit
so what is was windy and rainy so what's the southcoast like and Teesside but
they get it week in week out we all know we can get through these group
stage's because there is no one to challenge england lets be fair we gave
most teams a head start we played the clown David James in goal we could only
go one worse by playing Jens Lehmen. Again a side with a lot of promise but
no delivery.......... FROM:
DARREN DORE-WRIGHT RE:
Favourite Player Tommy
my boy take away tu from your best player and you got the Q.P.R. squad i took
a bit of stick in the game when i sold Danny Shittu for a can of iron bru and
a packet of love hearts. See your point's on defenders where would And
Mr Penil as i am the Q.P.R. manager in the game i have a few Super Hoops
you may be interested in (i will add supporters tax on there value). my final
words just think back to champions league final the most pressure ever and
zidane's volley as if it was a kick around in the park
Darren Dore-Wright FROM:
TOM PENIL
RE: Favourite Player This
is not really about my favourite player but more of an enquiry into why
defenders and goalkeepers never really come into the reckoning when people
talk of great players of the past and present! WHY? FROM:
JY TAYLOR
RE: Favourite Player There's
so much hype about Rooney at the moment that it's got me thinking - which
other players make me stand up and take notice. Rooney
is the first for ages. Cole was exciting in his first couple of seasons at
the Hammers but he had no pressure and was playing in a side where people
expected very little. Van
der Vaart, Kaka and Ronaldinho I like but unfortunately don't get the time to
see them enough. I do have kids at school though constantly trying to
practise Ronaldinho's look one way and play another! For
me it's Davids. The guy is just simply 'The Man'. He tackles like a demon and
has the biggest ego of them all but his footwork is just awesome. I love
watching him and am constantly amazed at the small things he can do on a
pitch. It all comes from the Nike Euro 2000 advert. You know, the one where
Van Gaal sent his players into the castle to fight the ninjas and Davids wins
the day with his incredible skill. I loved that ad (I was lucky enough to
work for Nike at Wembly coaching kids that summer) and we practised the
skills non stop. So
Davids is the man for me - who's yours and ... more intrestingly which is
your favourite footie ad - I'll start you off with a classic involving
Denilson and an airport in 1998! Jy FROM:
DARREN DORE-WRIGHT
RE: Disc Points and Suspensions. Now
for a first to agree with a point Sir Jy Taylor is making i do try and keep
big squads to cope with a season my main axe to grind is suspension point's
at the end of the season. I feel to be more realistic these
should be cleared at the end of the season and then fair enough if a player reaches
the maximum points then it's only fair a suspension is given but i think it
should only be a game and a 2 game suspension if they are sent off and reach
there maximum disciplinary points. Why also do the injuries carry over new
season fresh start for all player's in my opinion. This
for Pete Neald as a manager that is at the end of your continual whinging try
getting with the time's and invest in a phone or dare i say it a computer and
then when i need a quick sale i can also text or e-mail you to see if you are
intrusted in the player as many of us managers already do. Then i can have no
complaint when you start bending my ear worse than my girlfriend.
Darren Dore-Wright FROM:
JY TAYLOR RE: Disc Points and
Suspensions. "I
have an axe to grind! Possibly because it's gonna cost me the SAFL title but
it's an issue that's been bugging me for a while - I'm only mentioning it now
because Ray's gonna pip me to that elusive SAFL championship once more! Suspension
and injuries! I have a 1st and reserve team squad that includes 8 df and a
defensive utl - you'd think that was adequate! Wrong!!! I now have a
situation where I can field only 2 defenders and a player loaned to my
reserves who is a 74! I am 2 points clear at the top of the SAFL and in the
semi-finals of the champions league (admittedly 2 of those out can play in
the CL as they are suspended). Some
of you will say that I should have been more careful and got in more
defenders - maybe that's the case. But I thought 8 would be enough! My issue
is this - how can it be right for players who get suspended for 12 points to
miss 3 games (I think that's what it is). Even so I have players - Figo who
have had 2 injuries and a suspension this season and therefore have only
played 1/4 of the games available - that's unrealistic. Can
something been done about this? Can the numbers of games to be missed be
dropped or - and I think this is probably the most sensible - can discipline
points be cleared at the end of the season? Why is this not done already? It
means, therefore, that everyone starts the season on an even footing. Maybe
I'm just moaning coz I can see the one title I need slipping from my
grasp but does anyone disagree? Jy FROM:
PETE NIELD
RE: Game 1 Dealing, Let them get on with it. There has been plenty of talk
about managing doing deals with their mates and milking sides etc. It is killing
the game for new managers to get a decent sides, I have been waiting for over
a year and every time a side comes available their best younger players were
sold the previous turns to mates. However other managers are also getting
carried away with the high transfer prices. For instance Norwich were
doing a great job and headed the promotion chase for much of the season, then
they bought tonnes of crappy overseas players from PSV (No doubt to help
clear a debt) who don’t get a game and they are out of the promotion places. I say let them get on with it
and they end up missing out on promotion and title success as they seem to
spend so much time bailing each other out of massive deals they cant really
afford £30 million+ for Wiltord to a side that probably cant afford him and
won get promotion, interesting if Lisbon benefit from this lucky wind fall.
Doubt it. Only 3 or 4 sides can really afford such prices ie: Fedinand,
Ballack etc and the rest are playing above their weight. I cant afford it so
I don’t get involved there are enough bargains and decent deals to be done
and I have got I suggest we let Trev stop the
cheating managers by changes to deal rules etc and managers stop moaning so
much (including myself!) and if managers want to go silly and pretend there
are top managers in the lower divisions then let them. |
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